Play 8th Edition WFB with no changes & Peer Comp

[hebejebus]

yeah its a funny subject cause there isnt anything out there that is broken enough that you can guarantee a good placing at a tournament without much effort.
what there is though is some combos that make playing certain armies and strategies near impossible, ie you place your high elves down i place down 200 repeater crossbowmen gg(thats only 2k pts btw).
so sensible caps would stop these combos

now on the other hand i do not feel like i met anyone on the tourney circuit this year that would actually drop something so ridiculous on the table

but say certain combos arose during early tournaments in the year, then players would start accounting for such things during the next tourneys and all of a sudden we have this new dynamic where everyone is meeting certain criteria for there lists to account for other lists.  you end up with a comp system generated by players themselves

lol i really seem to have no exact preference do i

[wouster7]

All these comments are great from the community and I'm using everything here to base it for the new Equinox Players pack. It is looking pretty good and lite so far

[Digl]

Competetive:
I do not want to play a competetive game without ETC or similar restrictions.

As an out-of-the-box game, 8th edition is not balanced. To make it viable as a competetive game, we need restrictions. Easy.


Casual:
For casual tournaments, to give new players a go and just relax a bit more, I don't know the answer. Honestly I think we need to rely on saying "don't be a dick for this one - leave Mr Pegasus at home". Because if we have no restrictions the noobs will get obliterated. If we have some restrictions it's fairer, but it removes the casual, fun aspect of deadly flaming terrain and game-ending spells.

Composition Scores worked too. They were used all over the place in 7th. Why not now? Maybe the problem we have now is the divide in army books has become too great, and so comp bounces are silly, or not enough. Which I can see being true, but I think with moderate caps in place () it could still work. The most important thing about this method is it makes a variety of lists viable, not just the streamlined bullshit the kids are plucking from the internet these days .

The option I think would be best for casual tournies is a "don't be a dick" statement and the main caps for army lists (just in case), but untouched rules. This means the lists shouldn't be silly (TOs should reject optimised filth lists) but the rules will be the full-on 8th edition blast-your-faces-off ruleset. Maybe have a light comp score in there too.


I think that in NZ we're lucky enough to have gamers who respect the "don't be a dick" approach, and I'd like to see that tried out a bit more. I know I love making weird unconventional lists, and it'd be cool to play against some others too.

Cheers,
Joe

[Simon]

peer comp doesn't work. don't go back in time.

[Raymond]

"Competitive:
I do not want to play a competitive game without ETC or similar restrictions.

As an out-of-the-box game, 8th edition is not balanced. To make it viable as a competitive game, we need restrictions. Easy."
Totally agree Joe.

"I know I love making weird unconventional lists, and it'd be cool to play against some others too."
As an aside like your masters list, although it’s not as quirky as last year’s even you've gone down the dark side of point’s denial.

Back on topic as this thread shows opinions differ and always will, so TO's need to make a call either play what you'd have liked to play in, or play what you believe the majority would like to play. Most players are thankful you've gone to the effort of organising anything; it’s just in their nature to bitch you will not get a set of restrictions that suit everyone.

I was actually discussing restrictions v rule changes with a TO recently and whether I was playing devil’s advocate or truly believed it, I played the you’re trying to play 7.5 card. But after seeing those master lists if I ran a tourney it would be called PurpleSun. No restrictions on magic dice, and ½ points for any units under ½ strength..... anything that moves the trend from buses / deathstar / points denial gets a plus in my book at the moment, as to me that makes the game more enjoyable. Whether it was a rule in 7th or not if it makes the game better I’m keen, who knows it may be a rule in 8.5.


Raymond