GW Failco$t (finecast) miniatures. my review.

[daemion]

now i am triple pissed. i go in store this morning at st lukes to see if i can change my mind about failcost range-maybe even relent and pick up an abby for my collection... i tried and came away even more grumpy.

1. bubbles, blemishes, bent bits (warping)and crap tons of flash on minis i saw. (is this their pre production run they have palmed off to nz?)
2. price. mother of god you must check out the new improved prices on gw main website- i am too gutted to list them as i saw them this morning. wtf?! 44bux for abby? pay more for an exact copy of an existing 21 year old fig? nah.
3. service. not one person there could answer my questions about the products- look on gw site was the answer. (i would have but it only came online again bout an hour ago)good god. do they really get told nothing in the hobby centres? yes.
4. safety issues. its resin people. take a leaf out of forgeworlds site and follow safety instructions. i dont give a shit about their secret recipe and how its tested extensively. i want proof. not a couple of sentences saying its safe to use.
5. i watched 4 kids putting their new figs together-it was faster than metal when assembling. (thats all i got thats nice to say)
--for those of you not so skilled on fiddling and fixing bits-get someone else with the skills to do it. i cant see GW giving you a refund if you break this shit when assembling and prepping.

for gods sake-
their own investor statement crap says that resin was 20% cheaper than metal- why the hell are we paying 20-30-40% more???

Can any of us afford to pay full nz retail on this shitballs cluster f@#$ now we have lost maelstrom and waylandgames and all the other offshore retailers?

i want to go into GW st Lukes and pay a fair price. thats it.

so to sum up my review. screw you GW. I will not be playing or endorsing your games aor products anymore. my boycott of your range and services will be from today 28 may 2011 until 1st Jan 2012 or until we in nz get a fair deal.

im playing fow, malifaux, d&d, heroclix and pokemon TCG so its not like i will miss you GW. i actively encourage all others in the cityguard and those around nz's gaming community who feel the same way to not stop playing the games you love on account of my view... just dont buy the failcost range. its bollux.

[daemion]

oh. Abby should be $30nz... not bloody $44. go to hell GW

[Simon]

a detailed finecast review if interested.

http://piratevikingpainting.blogspot.com/2011/05/finecast-review.html

[daemion]

Thanks simon. i needed a balanced view. im pretty bloody angry right now. can you tell?

[Simon]

Thanks simon. i needed a balanced view. im pretty bloody angry right now. can you tell?

yes I can, because I'm not very happy either.

[daemion]

damn, i just realised i said most of what that dude said.

[Carl]

Agreed with everything you say. However, will our boycott actually achieve anything (apart from us not wasting money)? we don't actually buy from local GW stores, anyway. I'm not an economics man so help me, anyone...will us not buying -at all -have any effect? Our money went to online stores -GW got a cut. We can no longer buy online from the UK. We won't buy here (some-most of us?).

The guys who bought here still will. Doesn't affect them. See what I'm saying? The online guys are the one's being shafted.

I've got everything I need, now, anyway. No GW purchases from me for the rest of the year. Nice for my wallet but will it have ANY effect?

Sadly, I doubt it.

Poor bastards who actually want to START WH for the 1st time -I guess they'll look at other systems.
Poor GW -Fail growth strategy.

[Chris]

Theoretically it will Carl. I'm not an economics man either but I am a money man and I understand the blackened souls of GW's accountants.

On a worldwide scale a boycott from NZ is not even a ripple but the fact that they have a retail center or two here means their bean counters do pay attention to the NZ sales figures. While we might not be a big enough drop to matter globally, if NZ sales start to die off dramatically from boycotts then someone will notice because it will be a significant % drop in the region.

[juiced]

which is why they stopped the trade from internet traders.
they where well aware that there sales had dropped at both independent retailers,and thier hobby stores in the last few years,of course mainly in oz,but here as well.

[Chris]

Which is a bit of a decision because if their sales pick up even a little bit that justifies their trade terms and price rises (on an assumed trend basis) to the accountants.

That, let me assure you. Is bad for you.

[Sectiplave]

Which is a bit of a decision because if their sales pick up even a little bit that justifies their trade terms and price rises (on an assumed trend basis) to the accountants.

That, let me assure you. Is bad for you.

Yep, that's why I won't be buying ANYTHING from local GW stores for the remainder of this year, I'm switching to P3/Vallejo anyway so I don't need their paint, mitre 10 has better and cheaper tools. The only part I'm screwed on is good plastic glue, need to investigate a quality alternative, there are million good super glues though.

When the Necron release comes, I'll be talking to my Brother.... who lives in France

As long as it looks like AUS and NZ sales have dropped because of this, it should show them the error of their ways.

[Simon]

Theoretically it will Carl. I'm not an economics man either but I am a money man and I understand the blackened souls of GW's accountants.

but you are an accountant! you suppose to understand all this. 

[Chris]

Outed! Yes, so stop buying GW stuff people or it will actually get worse. And yes, it can get worse.




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[Rasputin]

Accountants should never run a business

[NeckFace]

The only part I'm screwed on is good plastic glue, need to investigate a quality alternative, there are million good super glues though.

not keen on gale force nine glues?  i'm pretty damned happy with the bottle i got, slapping it all over my stuff, good and strong and seems to last the distance.  AND the nozzle doesn't get blocked which is half the reason why so much super glue has been wasted for me in the past

[daemion]

and its cheaper too!

[daemion]

if you do buy them make sure you open them in store.

[PACman]

I jumped on the GW site to check out something, saw a link to 'finecast' and thought "Sweet, they're bringing out a range of special super-detailed models and what-not!"
Clicked the link and saw that all they're doing is releasing existing models in resin.

WTH is the purpose of Finecast? They're giving us crap that's already available, at a stupidly inflated price.
What rationale was behind this? What purpose was there?
Is this replacing the production of the metal version of these miniatures? I can think of few things more utterly pointless than this.
Someone please make this make sense to me


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[Hunter_Flood]

I jumped on the GW site to check out something, saw a link to 'finecast' and thought "Sweet, they're bringing out a range of special super-detailed models and what-not!"
Clicked the link and saw that all they're doing is releasing existing models in resin.

What the hell is the purpose of Finecast? They're giving us crap that's already available, at a stupidly inflated price.
What rationale was behind this? What purpose was there?
Is this replacing the production of the metal version of these miniatures? I can think of few things more utterly pointless than this.
Someone please make this make sense to me

This will explain most of your problems.
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/06/40k-review-citadel-finecast.html

[wouster7]

WARNING:

I can see the point of this thread and agree some what. Please watch you language and remember that this is a public forum.

[PACman]

This will explain most of your problems.
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/06/40k-review-citadel-finecast.html

Better casting and easier to cut up and convert?
Cool, but this is just giving us what they already tell us they give us ever time anyone says anything about price: "You're paying for quality"
Mark-up to give us what they already claimed to be giving us. Nice, but not worth a further price-hike

[daemion]

hell yeh pacman.

[Sectiplave]

not keen on gale force nine glues?  i'm pretty damned happy with the bottle i got, slapping it all over my stuff, good and strong and seems to last the distance.  AND the nozzle doesn't get blocked which is half the reason why so much super glue has been wasted for me in the past

Do they make plastic glue? I'm still trying to hunt down someone who makes quality plastic glue without resorting to going in store GW.

[NeckFace]

i guess they must do, thought i've never seen it myself.  i use a non-toxic cement for plastics that has lasted for ages and cost me 10 bucks back in the day from vagabonds.  smells like oranges

in more news to do with finecast, apparently they melt quite badly in direct sunlight, warping and cracks appearing along seams and what not. 

[daemion]

the gf9 glue is great. plastic, resin and metal. al gd.

[Lazarus]

tripple 2nd that, G9 stuff its the Sh*t. If you want stuff glues and stuck there fore good thats the stuff. I move from Hot stuff to this and have been happy. its only $10.

Highly recommended over other brands. 5 million thumbs up

[Sectiplave]

tripple 2nd that, G9 stuff its the Sh*t. If you want stuff glues and stuck there fore good thats the stuff. I move from Hot stuff to this and have been happy. its only $10.

Highly recommended over other brands. 5 million thumbs up

Sounds like a goer then, I've been thinking to use good super glue for assembling plastic mini's just to see how it turns out. Hoping it would help me as I like to assemble the model before I paint it, and sometimes wish I could pull some parts off to get easier painting access, could just lightly tac them with super so it can be removed and reglued after some painting in behind.

[Placator]

Not sure where should post, but saw an interesting alternative for 40k players.
www.micropanze r.com

The stuff looks relatively new in terms of production, but scale of 32mm(as well as 15mm), which isn't to different from heroic 28mm.

[Rhok]

Wow that is cool, definately if prices are good I and there was enough interest at the club, I could jump from 40k to this.

[HarasinCreed]

I completely agree with you damian and i too am not going to buy warhammer this year and get into warmachine instead.