Tin Soldiers 4, Bring Back Dragoncon!

[Simon]

worked after I removed all the numbers at the end

[Josh]

Yeah it does. Give it a few seconds to load, Rapidshare goes to a signup page first, then will go to the file download page. Email incoming however to those on my mailing list...

[Simon]

a couple of BEASTS you missed

WOC has Hellcannon
Lizardmen has normal stegadon
vampire count has Vargulf

since crown of command, pendant etc are being banned.

may I suggest to add greater icon of despair as well?

if not, then you know which army i'm going to take.... (if i can make it to TS4)

[richardbarby]

packs looking good time to dust off the lammasu

i really like the masters round. not that  i will be in it but the idea looks really good to me

[Josh]

Yay, feedback. I was beginning to think no one had any problems and there would be no moaning at all!

a couple of BEASTS you missed

WOC has Hellcannon
Lizardmen has normal stegadon
vampire count has Vargulf

Hellcannon is more warmachine than BEAST, likewise the Scraplauncha and Engine of the Gods, etc. They won't be included...
Normal stegadon? What is this, a tournament of little girls??? Be a man.
Vargulf was tempting to put in because it seems to fit the bill, but it's really not a one man army like a BEAST is supposed to be. That is why it too was left off the list.

may I suggest to add greater icon of despair as well?

Of course, you can suggest anything you want. Assuming that's the Demon -2 leadership banner (names aren't my strong point), my understanding is the unit requires LOS to the bearer? I think that means that it doesn't work against a unit in combat, is that correct? If so I don't see too many problems. I promise to closely look for all tricks and surprises in any army list that contain that item though.

Remember, try not to come up with combos/builds which 'get around' the players pack, and instead look to build an army that fits in with what this tournament is trying to be about (BEASTS, if it needed to be said).

time to dust off the lammasu

Good man 

i really like the masters round. not that  i will be in it but the idea looks really good to me

Great to hear positive feedback there. I know it's a new idea I think has merit, and look forward to hearing peoples thoughts particularly after the event (unless it's "OMGWTFBBQ I 20-0 some noob in round 6... I could have got 2nd!!!" in which case I don't care).

Thanks for the feedback!

[richardbarby]

so hell cannons in for choas dwarfs but out for woc ?

[Simon]

Yay, feedback. I was beginning to think no one had any problems and there would be no moaning at all!

wasn't moaning, I thought you just forgot the missing beasts.

Of course, you can suggest anything you want. Assuming that's the Demon -2 leadership banner (names aren't my strong point), my understanding is the unit requires LOS to the bearer? I think that means that it doesn't work against a unit in combat, is that correct? If so I don't see too many problems. I promise to closely look for all tricks and surprises in any army list that contain that item though.

Daemon's Greater icon of despair is -2 to leadership to any enemy units within 12 inches of the standard. It works on any enemy units, LOS or not.

you must be thinking about WOC one, Woc one is -1 to leadership and requires LOS.

Remember, try not to come up with combos/builds which 'get around' the players pack, and instead look to build an army that fits in with what this tournament is trying to be about (BEASTS, if it needed to be said)

it is not a combo or build which get around the player pack, greater icon of despair appears in 90% of all the 8th edition daemon list because it is simply one of the best magic item.  Same apply to WOC's infernal puppet and dark elf's pendant. They are the best items so they appear in almost all the "hard" lists.  

Anyhow, I was only making some suggestion. I personally have so many armies to choose from so any type of restrictions won't really bother me.

[Vaul]

Gotta agree with simon on that one, LD9 steadfast with re-roll is suddenly not that reliable when it is LD7.  Maybe I can borrow your daemons if you can't make it to the event

[Big D]

Just to get in first -

RICHARD BARBY!! I CHALLENGE THEE!!
Do you have the Cojones to face my righteous fury???

[Chaoswolf]

Cool concept, look forward to it. Seems like there's a few comp onion tears  :'( over Daemons though? (http://greenblowfly.blogspot.com/2010/09/comp-onion.html)  Seems a bit emotional, but with no paint restrictions I could take my WoC I guess? In anycase, nice work Josh, dare to be different, pretty sure 3-4 of my Tron lads will attend.

PS - Unpack your Moan-proof armor methinks 

[richardbarby]

Just to get in first -

RICHARD BARBY!! I CHALLENGE THEE!!
Do you have the Cojones to face my righteous fury???

depends what army you running dwarfs or vamps if you know how to play vamps in 8th  

but yep bring it doesnt matter what army your running wont be 20-0 like last time i played your vamps for sure or 20-0 twice in 3 hours

[Simon]

Troll

[Big D]

Just to get in first -

RICHARD BARBY!! I CHALLENGE THEE!!
Do you have the Cojones to face my righteous fury???

depends what army you running dwarfs or vamps if you know how to play vamps in 8th  

but yep bring it doesnt matter what army your running wont be 20-0 like last time i played your vamps for sure or 20-0 twice in 3 hours

Doofs of course and you're right, it won't be 20-0, it will 20-0 + bragging rights for snotting your Lame-ass-u between the eyes with a cannonball in the first turn.

[Fujin]

Playing the "game of skill and superior tactical acumen" again Daryl?

[richardbarby]

ATT BIG D

side bet ? first drink of the day for the winner im guessing your on for the liver rotting woodys or jack and coke . i will take a pint of tui thanks

[Big D]

You are so very on. Nothing tastes better than alcohol someone else pays for.

[Nikolectric]

Can i take 2 hellcannons if i use one a a monster and not shoot it, and the other as a cannon and shoot every turn?

[Simon]

instead look to build an army that fits in with what this tournament is trying to be about (BEASTS, if it needed to be said)

in that case I want to take a carnsaur lord, a EOTG and 2 normal stegadons as 3 warmachines and a ancient stegadon as a BEAST

is that BEASTly enough?? will that fit in the tournament?  

[Big D]

I think you skipped over the line about moderation Simon 

[richardbarby]

your right there big d my beer will taste nice when you buy it for me after i scatter your dwarfs all over the onehunger rsa

[Josh]

Please remember that to express your interest, you must email me at tinsoldiers4@yahoo.com. To confirm your registration for the event, I must receive payment (same as every other tournament...). Payment can be made with cash in hand, internet deposit, or cheque. Please contact me if you want to pay via internet transfer or cheque and I'll supply my details.

Also, there are two more points to be added to the player's pack:

 -  BEAST options for Warriors of Chaos should include the Shaggoth and Chaos Giant.
 -  After deliberation, Dogs of War armies may now include Regiments of Renown and the flying BEAST Asarnil the Dragonlord. Albion characters are still a no go.

[Big D]

Where it says "you will not recieve the 100 BP for shooting a general off the top of his beast" does this mean "unless you also kill his beast" ?

[richardbarby]

Where it says "you will not recieve the 100 BP for shooting a general off the top of his beast" does this mean "unless you also kill his beast" ?

maybe it just means try something other than cannon sniping heros on beasts 

[Big D]

If you paint a bullseye on your Lords forehead I'm gonna shoot at it 

[richardbarby]

If you paint a bullseye on your Lords forehead I'm gonna shoot at it 

i get the feeling thats going to happen a lot at ts4 cannons and very well amied stone throwers for 2 days

[wouster7]

Betsy has decided that your Lamm-asss-uuu needs public stomping.

1st round grudge Mr Barby, are you game???

Edit: Lamm-asss-uuu's are very popular so I'd just settle for a pre-TS4 stomping. Beer bet if we meet in the tourney.

i get the feeling thats going to happen a lot at ts4 cannons and very well amied stone throwers for 2 days

Lotsa misfires from the singular and not plural warmachines.
No Duplicate warmachines of the same type means you take a cannon you can't have a steam tank? (flight of fancy I know)

[Big D]

Lotsa misfires from the singular and not plural warmachines.

Lucky Dwarfs cannons very rarely misfire then isn't it. Don't worry Phil, Ol' Reliable has a cannonball with Betsy's name on it too 

[Hazm]

I should be back in NZ for this, may look at coming up for some ETC practice... Not sure how that's going to work with the compulsory beasts, but whatever. Really like the masters round.

Cheers.

[wouster7]

I should be back in NZ for this, may look at coming up for some ETC practice...

Ah you're back for this, sweet! What ya planning on taking?

[warpmaster]

I'm pretty sure Harry will be chomping at the bit to break out the TK

I might come up for this too(see how your gaming with a bar on hand)