Equinox 40k results

[Nikolectric]

Rank   Player   Army   Total   Battle Total   Sports Total   Comp Total   Pres Total   Sports   Comp   Paint   Army Comp   Unit Comp   Pres   
1   Charlie St Clair   Orks   150.6   84   27   21.6   18   30   0   0   2.4   0   18   
2   Mark Buttle   Tyranids   133.9   61   26.1   28.8   18   29   0   0   3.2   0   18   
3   Doug Sainsbury   SM: Ravenwing   131.7   57   27   29.7   18   30   0   0   3.3   0   18   
4   James Ryder   Demons   131.5   64   27   22.5   18   30   0   0   2.5   0   18   
5   Daniel Hayden   Tyranids   128.2   67   27   16.2   18   30   0   0   1.8   0   18   
6   Blaise St Laurent   Tyranids   127.6   52   27   30.6   18   30   0   0   3.4   0   18   
7   Hayden Korach   Eldar   127.2   57   27   25.2   18   30   0   0   2.8   0   18   
8   Wes Barklay   Tau   126.4   49   27   32.4   18   30   0   0   3.6   0   18   
9   Robert Power   Eldar   126.3   48   27   33.3   18   30   0   0   3.7   0   18   
10   Henare Akari   CSM   125.9   62   27   18.9   18   30   0   0   2.1   0   18   
11   Russell Taylor   SM: Blood Angels   122.9   51   27   27.9   17   30   0   0   3.1   0   17   
12   Steve Davis   IG   121.4   62   27   14.4   18   30   0   0   1.6   0   18   
13   David Foster   CSM   120.5   44   27   31.5   18   30   0   0   3.5   0   18   
14   Kyle Wilson   Demons   120.4   43   26.1   33.3   18   29   0   0   3.7   0   18   
15   Simon Farrell   Orks   120   49   27   27   17   30   0   0   3   0   17   
16   Tristan Sample   demons   119.2   49   27   25.2   18   30   0   0   2.8   0   18   
17   Craig Dewes   SM   118.6   43   27   30.6   18   30   0   0   3.4   0   18   
18   Dave Wilson   Witch Hunters   117.7   43   27   29.7   18   30   0   0   3.3   0   18   
19   Paul Bennett   CSM   117.5   41   27   31.5   18   30   0   0   3.5   0   18   
20   Dean Oldham   SM: Blood Angels   116.8   52   27   19.8   18   30   0   0   2.2   0   18   
21   Dean Carson   IG   116   44   27   27   18   30   0   0   3   0   18   
22   Stan Van der Ham   Daemonhunters   114.7   31   27   38.7   18   30   0   0   4.3   0   18   
23   Adam Beach   SM: Deathwing   114.6   49   27   21.6   17   30   0   0   2.4   0   17   
24   Sam Payne   Dark Eldar   114   42   27   27   18   30   0   0   3   0   18   
25   Matt Robinson   SM: Deathwing   113.7   39   27   29.7   18   30   0   0   3.3   0   18   
26   Damien Avery   Tyranids   112.7   47   27   20.7   18   30   0   0   2.3   0   18   
27   Maximilian Veers   SM   112.5   36   27   31.5   18   30   0   0   3.5   0   18   
28   Chris Ward   IG   111.7   46   27   20.7   18   30   0   0   2.3   0   18   
29   Corey Buchanan   Eldar   111.1   31   27   35.1   18   30   0   0   3.9   0   18   
30   Pablo Dickson   Orks   109.9   39   27   27.9   16   30   0   0   3.1   0   16   
31   Damian Reid   CSM   108.5   32   27   31.5   18   30   0   0   3.5   0   18   
32   Daniel Maguire   IG   106.5   39   26.1   23.4   18   29   0   0   2.6   0   18   
33   Tom Bilby   Tau   106.5   30   26.1   32.4   18   29   0   0   3.6   0   18   
34   Tom Porteous   SM   106.3   31   27   33.3   15   30   0   0   3.7   0   15   
35   Joel McNelly   IG   100.6   27   27   30.6   16   30   0   0   3.4   0   16   
36   James Hale   SM   100.3   26   27   33.3   14   30   0   0   3.7   0   14   
37   James Irwin   SM   100.2   22   27   34.2   17   30   0   0   3.8   0   17   
38   Paul Hawkes   SM: Blood Angels   99.2   29   27   25.2   18   30   0   0   2.8   0   18   
39   Richard Sell   SM: Space Wolves   98.4   30   27   23.4   18   30   0   0   2.6   0   18   
40   Aaron Seth   CSM   90   9   27   36   18   30   0   0   4   0   18   

[Lazarus]

25th bummer not much between the top 20 points wise. One more win and i might of been up a bit more. Dam you large armys with 100+ models.

[Nikolectric]

Yea, the field was SUPER close. Its quite epic to see. Peeps gotta remember to go for any points you can. Not just the overall win / loss that matters.

[Simon]

the table is like #1 Charlie...


then huge gap

then the rest.

[blood_god]

the table is like #1 Charlie...


then huge gap

then the rest.

Unfortunately for the rest of us thats generally how it goes!

[Simon]

I don't play 40k, but Charlie appears to come first in every 40k tournament,

I am just wondering if anyone actually beaten Charlie in a tournament game before?

[Nikolectric]

Yes a few have.
He plays very well and knows how to use his army perfectly. That is why he wins. Full cred to him.

[richardbarby]

with 3 nids top 6 again much like battle cry are they the best 40k army going or just the best power armour beater ?

[NeckFace]

neither, they just have a bunch of rules that catch people off guard if they're not aware of them.

[Lazarus]

Its nice to see my guys still hold there ground well. Apart from going vs nids.

[richardbarby]

i guess the moster that spawns heaps of troops each turn is a bit of a zinger

[Lazarus]

Na what got me was an army full of T6 models. 3 trygon a swarm lord with guard, 6 hive guard, and a trevergon.

No way in hell many people could stop that. Unless you are the new gray knights.

[daemion]

nah. mama bug and her buglets r easy to deak with.its the head bug that makes u ws1 i1 that always screws me. a gd synapse is esential... and charlie is freaking awesome with his orks. gd stuf nik. great torney!

[Lazarus]

Was good first one i have been to that i did not play 80% marines. 

Good to know there is other army in the game.

[Sectiplave]

Not a single person playing as tin cans, I really need to buy the last few bits for my Necron army

Tyranids are hugely under-rated by online list makers. Like someone said in the battle cry thread, these are the same people who constantly play on 'planet bowling ball' with as little as 10% terrain coverage on the board.

Good to see there was diversity at the tournament, I'm hoping I can actually make it next year, damned work!

[daemion]

you missed a gd one thats for sure!

[NeckFace]

yeah those missions looked like a total hoot -  would i be able to get a copy of the players pack off someone to have a hoon?  be keen to play a few of them at home, maybe string them into some sort of narrative campaign

[richardbarby]

on a different track i used to run a all on foot army space marines
and it looked like it was tanks for memories in the 40k today . i havent played in 4 years by the by

does an army of assault marines tactical marines devestator marines teminators not really stack up anymore

[Vaul]

yeah those missions looked like a total hoot -  would i be able to get a copy of the players pack off someone to have a hoon?  be keen to play a few of them at home, maybe string them into some sort of narrative campaign

Dude I played in the fantasy division and even little old me had a couple of 40k practice games with those missions!  They're a blast.  Credit where it's due though, Nikola pilfered some of the fantasy scenario mechanics for his missions.

[NeckFace]

aha! well either way, most of them looked great.

richard, there's some battle reports that i have read where people have run space marine 'horde' armies.  and they've done quite well with them.  but having a transport that both increases the speed of your units, and create mobile cover is seems to be somewhat of a no-brainer, especially at the cheap points cost rhinos come.

[richardbarby]

aha! well either way, most of them looked great.

richard, there's some battle reports that i have read where people have run space marine 'horde' armies.  and they've done quite well with them.  but having a transport that both increases the speed of your units, and create mobile cover is seems to be somewhat of a no-brainer, especially at the cheap points cost rhinos come.

by that are the new targeting and cover rules but suited to tank / apc with troops

[Sectiplave]

yeah those missions looked like a total hoot -  would i be able to get a copy of the players pack off someone to have a hoon?  be keen to play a few of them at home, maybe string them into some sort of narrative campaign

Count me in dude!

I'm switching shifts next week to have 3 months worth of Monday to Friday work, so I'll have a boat load of free sundays while the misses is at work. Also looking to Maelstrom the last peices of my Necron army in the next few weeks.

[Nikolectric]

Dude I played in the fantasy division and even little old me had a couple of 40k practice games with those missions!  They're a blast.  Credit where it's due though, Nikola pilfered some of the fantasy scenario mechanics for his missions.

Yeah, observing and playing both games at a competitive level gives a nice perspective which can be used to create intersting missions.
Interesting how the random deployment works os much better in 40k imo because of the ability to redeploy eaier than in fantasy.

[NeckFace]

aha! well either way, most of them looked great.

richard, there's some battle reports that i have read where people have run space marine 'horde' armies.  and they've done quite well with them.  but having a transport that both increases the speed of your units, and create mobile cover is seems to be somewhat of a no-brainer, especially at the cheap points cost rhinos come.

by that are the new targeting and cover rules but suited to tank / apc with troops

in a nutshell, yep.  the more popular builds are the so-called mech-armies

[Vaul]

Dude I played in the fantasy division and even little old me had a couple of 40k practice games with those missions!  They're a blast.  Credit where it's due though, Nikola pilfered some of the fantasy scenario mechanics for his missions.

Yeah, observing and playing both games at a competitive level gives a nice perspective which can be used to create intersting missions.
Interesting how the random deployment works os much better in 40k imo because of the ability to redeploy eaier than in fantasy.

Zing, quite right.  It forces the 40k players to think harder!  Oh boy i'm tempted to make some insulting comments here but I think the 40k scene rules.  It's more interesting than the fantasy one in some ways

[proximity]

on a different track i used to run a all on foot army space marines
and it looked like it was tanks for memories in the 40k today . i havent played in 4 years by the by

does an army of assault marines tactical marines devestator marines teminators not really stack up anymore

Essentially, that type of army was all the rage in 4th edition because nothing went into reserve for escalation, you had everything on the table from turn 1 onwards. You played escalation in a third of your games, so would get quite hampered.

Fast forward a few years to 5th edition, and vehicles are cheaper, more survivable, and generally more accessible. Games can be shorter (providing a greater importance on getting your troops up the table more quickly), so they wind up winning out quite a bit. The downside is they push your kill points up quite a bit, so you will have to work harder against an army with just a few kill points.

In saying that, as the metagame moves towards an antitank centric approach (read: meltas meltas everywhere, so lets all have a drink), a foot slogging army becomes more viable, though how you comprise that list can have varying levels of success. Unfortunately for it, Plasma is beginning to make a resurgence (well, it's not in New Zealand, but you will start to see more of it over the next 3-6 months as people start catching on) in response to growing numbers of MC's - and while they won't over take meltas, its bad news for a foot slogging marine list if it doesn't have a high enough body count to handle the increased output.


Anyway, back on track. Cheers for the great weekend Nikola, you did a great job. I must say it was one of my hardest events, and after getting a nightmare draw each and every round, for me it was very close to the Masters in terms of difficulty. The stakes were always high, in fact on day 2 if I lost to any of my 3 opponents they would have taken best general and probably the tournament over all.
Cheer's to all 6 of my opponents...
Simon "MIRRORMAN!" Farrel,  Chris "18/18 Manticore missles by turn 3.. HOW YOU LIKE DEM APPLES?" Ward, Damien "mum" Avery, Mark "fivehead" Buttle, Steve "Big McLargehuge" Davis, and last but by no means least, The stainsbury sandwich himself, Doug Sainsbury.


The fantasy vs 40k discussion is a stupid one that I hope this thread doesn't turn into... neither is better than the other, both are won with precision and finesse with the movement phase, while rolling dice in the other phases tries to ruin it for you. Which you play primarily should just come down to which group of people you enjoy playing with. For me, I was, and still consider myself to be; a fantasy player who just made the switch as he fitted better with that group of people. This weekend did nothing but reinforce that decision for me. While I intended to make equinox my last event, it's difficult to maintain those intentions when having a fantastic weekend with dozens of people I consider close friends, not to mention the support and advice I have received from many of them in these last few weeks.

Cheers,
- Charlie

[daemion]

dude. wel said. for once i have no smartarse comment to make. -damian.

[bartosh]

dude. wel said. for once i have no smartarse comment to make. -damian.

you can borow one of mine if you like dude, i have heaps

[Tuatara]

Had an awesome time. Loved the various missions. It's nice to have such a diverse bunch. Only had to seek clarification on one mission, but that was more due to me being a bit of a thicko than any failing of the descriptions.

Nice job guys.

[Haydn]

Yea great event. I made the same comment you made charlie to Nikola earlier today in an email about the level of compition increasing which is great to see. Now its my time to pilfer the missions and get thme ready for NICON 2011, where I hope to see all the people I played at equinox