Equinox 2010 - Tournament Thread- updated list of players

[wouster7]

EQUINOX - 2010

March 20th - 21st , Freemans Bay Community Centre (City Guard), 52 Hepburn St, Auckland.

$30 Early Registration ( Entries before 31st Jan Will also go int a draw to win a $50 GW voucher)
$40 Late Rego.         ( closing 5th March)

Contact:           Phil Wu         wouster7@hotmail.com
                  or  Nick Irvine     nick.a.irvine@gmail.com

WFB, 2250pts          Umpires: Phil Wu

40K,  1750pts          Umpire : TBA

Warmachine            TO       : Haydn                   thecsharian3@hotmail.com

Flames of War          Umpire : Gavin Van Rossum   equinoxflames@gmail.com

Field Of Glory 25mm, Umpire : Nick Buckby

Demo Games will also be available which will consist of some of the above systems and LOTR.

*There will be limited places for each system.*

*A BBQ will be held after the 3rd game on Saturday. Sausages will be provided BYO if you are after somethingelse.

Players pack can be found on http://homepages.xnet.co.nz/~nick.irvine/

WHFB                             WH 40K                     FoG 25mm

Daryl Painter                    Andrew Duncan               Nick Buckby
Nik Irvine                        Simon Kwok                     Paul Monk
Derick Williams                  Sam Payne                      Mark McCall
Scott Robinson                 Carl Templeton                Rob Sadler
5 Josh Warne                   Bruce Zhou                     Royce Neil
Luke Brimblecombe           Regan Ridge                    Richard Hornell
Ry Simister                      Thomas Porteus
Russell Simister                 Charlie St Clair
Antony Kitson                   Damien Avery
10 Pete Dunn                   Andrew Bartosh
Jack Dunn                        Kevin Shen
Nicholas Ng                     Tristan Sample
Bill Shera                         James Irwin
Reid Pittams                    Aaron Seth
15 Glenn Tibbles              Leighton Coles
Phil Comins                      James Hale
Chris Townley                  Craig Dewes  
Mark Lowe                      James Ryder
Mike Vercoe                     Paul Bennett
20 Tim Norling                  David Dawn
Paul Davison                    Adam Beach
Chris Ellis                          Steve Davis
Richard Barby                   Daniel Hayden      
Kyle Wilson                      Hayden Korach
25Scott White                 Richard Towsend
Rion Roben                     David Eagles
Jeff King                         Mathew Miles-Watson
Phil Petry                        Josh Thompson                
Paul Clarke
30 Nikola Jaksic
Ken Hay
Derick Burns
Glenn Patel
Sam Peteres
35 Aaron Cue
Henry Poor
Mike Thorn
Thomas Van Roekel
David Stent
40Aaron Peters
Ray O'Connor
Marc Zabern

List of players so far and will update closer to end of registration Friday.

[Simon]

where is it?

[omegakai]

its on the same page as the FC one.
click on that link in the FC release thigy and youll see it.

[Philfy]

its on the same page as the FC one.
click on that link in the FC release thigy and youll see it.

Thats still listed as being the "draft" and not the "final" release

[wouster7]

It is holidays boys. Delayed because of excess ham, turkey and beverages...oh i'm so merry n full... need to digest.

Glad you're all keen though so will get onto it when I get home tonight provided I can get a hold of CCs

[nik_]

Sorry guys, the final PP has been passed on to me, but I'm currently not in a position to put it up on the site. When I get home on the 4th It'll get put up and I'll post here to let you know.

[wouster7]

The Final players packs for both WFB and 40k have been released. I've sent out a bulk email to recent tournament goers and the ppl who supplied me with emails. All rules queries you may have can be posted on this thread but the tournament will work from existing GW Faqs foremost and then Direwolf Faqs.

Happy New year everyone.

[pete dunn]

What's the reasoning for the Hell Pit Abomination counting as two Rare choices? I would have thought that it would have been treated as the undercosted Hydra, Steam Tank etc

Apart from a Star dragon which takes up two Rare slots there is nothing else in your restrictions that does. You can take a Greater Daemon + Flamers, a Dark Dragon plus Hydra, Wraiths plus Varghulf/Blood Knights/Black Coach but no single HPA and any one of the other three Skaven Rares.

Were you stretching for restrictions?

Soft cap competitions like NatCon, Dogcon etc all let you take a HPA plus other Rare, but the supposedly "hard" Equinox won't let you. Bizarre 

[wouster7]

Hey Pete,
StarDragon got a additional penalty of 2 rare choices. Greater Daemons with toys have been nurfed plus Flamers restricted. You won't be able to take Dragon and Hydra as there is a limit of 1 flying terror causer or 2 normal walking terror bombs. Vargulf/Black knights/Black coach aren't quite in the same league as a HPA by far. HPA costing an extra rare is quite inline with the rest of the other Hard caps. The Army wide restrictions along with the Army specific caps do actually mitigate quite well the balance of power. The median build for Equinox will be possibly slightly stronger than normal tournaments but I don't foresee any lists that we haven't seen before at any other event.
 
Hope that answers your queries.
 
Phil.

[pete dunn]

You’re the first tournament worldwide that has put any specific restrictions around the HPA….so you must be seeing something the rest of the world isn’t 

“New” Skaven have been pretty much acknowledged as a mid-Tier army, well behind the big four. Yet you’ve put in restrictions around one of the tools that has kept them competitive, given all their shooting and much of their offensive magic is nerfed.

Looks like a kneejerk reaction to somebody having had a bad game against one.

While the median build is stronger, the restrictions that you’ve placed on the Skaven will make them weaker. Where’s the balance in that.

Seriously you need to have a rethink or you’ll see few Skaven players want to pay their money to take on armies you acknowledge are harder than normal with an army weaker than their normal skaven list.

Pete

[Doug]

I'm fine with those skaven restrictions as written, and would have absolutely no problem fielding an army under those criteria.

[Simon]

the player pack looks pretty good, of course not everyone are going to be happy with it, but I think it looks good enough, well done.

[that guy the Master]

You’re the first tournament worldwide that has put any specific restrictions around the HPA….so you must be seeing something the rest of the world isn’t 
...

Good point Pete. The pack was written before the Skaven book had been played alot and there may have been to some extent a degree of knee jerk reaction.

That is not to say that the restriction nerfs the skaven book though does it. You still get all the censer bearers you want don't you.

[Derick]

My turn...

Whinge , whinge, whinge, whine, whine, whine, (repeat with slight variation for next 8 weeks)

Thanks for the player pack Phil, Great work!
I'll sweeten the boss up and get the early registration in ASAP !

[wouster7]

@ Pete
Slapping a xtra rare on HPA may be a lil harsh but the tournament committee passed it through. I don't think it will unduly affect the strength of the new Skaven book. Asthetically HPA and another of the new Skaven rares zipping around the table would of been very eye pleasing. Maxing out the Rare shooty goodness from the Skaven book is still a go.

@Derick
Would be fantastic to see you get the leave pass fella. It should be a humm dinger of a good tournament times

Thanks for the kind words and support guys.

 

[wouster7]

Registrations slowly coming through now guys. I will have Pamphlets and posters out to Stores and clubs this week. Also keep an eye out for our advert in the February White Dwarf. Glad to announce that Derick is the 1st paid up attendee for the tourney. Good on ya mate!

[Derick]

I said I wasn't going to whinge, but I've just had a more thorough read and I have to ask for a Clarification.

No more than 45 models ( 30 for Dwarves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen and Demons of Chaos) w/- Ranged attack w/- potential strength 5+ or range of 18"+

Does this mean you can have 40 skink blowpipes strength 3 and 12" range?
(lizardmen don't have shooting > 3 or ranged attack > 12 apart from Sallies, and who's going to take 30 of them?)

[wouster7]

Q. What army are you taking to Equinox?
A. My role will be Umpire at Equinox and I will only be playing if a reserve player is required in the case of an uneven draw.

Q. With sports worth 30% my result will be unduly affected even with one biased vote.
A. The Sports system is very sound. Any mark downs by a player will have to be explained and any questionable votes will be investigated. I would expect everyone to be getting top score for this and the tournament decided by bulk on battle points as we intended.

Q. Can I have 40 Skink blow pipes?
A. You can have as many Blowpipes as you want as it doesn't fall under the Army wide restrictions.

[wouster7]

A BBQ will be hosted by Richard Barby on the Saturday of the tournament after the 3rd game.
Sausages will be provided and it will be BYO.
A Raffle costing $2 a ticket winning a range of prizes will go towards funding the BBQ.

Visit this thread for more details http://www.cityguard.co.nz/forum/index.php/topic,2241.msg22808.html#new

[nik_]

Players pack is found here .

[Gratnuk Ironfist]

Sweet, I will need to move some stuff around on the calendar, be a safe bet that I will be registering late though if I do.

See you on the battlefield.

[wouster7]

Hey Guys,

Early Registration ends this weekend so get in to win the $50 GW voucher and pay a cheaper entry fee.

Battle front has moved to back us for our flames tournament and I'll have more news once I have a chat tomorrow night with them.

The Fantasy part of the tournament seems to be well populated but the 40k side is still lagging behind. All you guys at the club should start motivating your gaming buddies and groups. We would really like to boost the 40k numbers upto around 30 if we can.

Although we should have enough terrain for over 50 tables. I would tentatively just ask for anyone that would like to spot a table or two with their terrain. PM me if you want to sponsor a table or so of terrain.

Cheers,
Phil.

[Simon]

Although we should have enough terrain for over 50 tables. I would tentatively just ask for anyone that would like to spot a table or two with their terrain. PM me if you want to sponsor a table or so of terrain.

just make sure there ain't any huge as terrain pieces that can take up 1/4 of the table.. 

[Derick]

Although we should have enough terrain for over 50 tables. I would tentatively just ask for anyone that would like to spot a table or two with their terrain. PM me if you want to sponsor a table or so of terrain.

just make sure there ain't any huge as terrain pieces that can take up 1/4 of the table.. 

so what do I do with this 3' x 6' swamp piece ?   

[SKELATOR]

give it to 40k 

[wouster7]

Q. Does my Army need to be painted for me to play at Equinox?

A. We don't require you to have a painted army to attend Equinox. For both WFB and 40k theres is no minimum painting requirement for you to attend. We are endeavouring to let all the the gamers out there play, no matter at what painting stage their army is at.

Q. Will my registration be held and be entered into the GW voucher draw if I haven't paid my entry fee.

A. Just to save on logistics issues only paid Registrations will ensure you a place at Equinox.

Any terrain out there however big or small will be welcome. So PM me if you want to show off your terrain and sponsor a table.

Phil.

[Derick]

Points denial query
1 x gobbo Chief, naked 35pts
3 x 30 night gobbo archers 60pts x 3 180pts
3 x fanatics 75
total army cost 290

Assuming Orcs+ gobbos are on the bottom of the tier structure, with a bit of luck most games should end in an adjusted draw.

would the list be vetoed?


 

[Simon]

Points denial query
1 x gobbo Chief, naked 35pts
3 x 30 night gobbo archers 60pts x 3 180pts
3 x fanatics 75
total army cost 290

Assuming Orcs+ gobbos are on the bottom of the tier structure, with a bit of luck most games should end in an adjusted draw.

would the list be vetoed?

I don't see why you cannot, but I just don't see why you want to do that.

1. it will be not be fun,
2. zero for sport.
3. u won't win any games
4. your battle points will never get u to top 3.

you will probably just end up at "one of the middle", wasted your time, wasted your money and also wasted your opponent time.

[nik_]

We will follow the FluffyCon convention on this one, armies less than 2200 (seems reasonable) will not be accepted. Thankyou for allowing me to prevent the ruining of the games for your opponents

[wouster7]

@Derick

Thanks for spotting all the loop holes for us.
The tournament is designed to be enjoyable and a good time for both opponents. Anything that may hinder the enjoyment of the tournament we'll try our best to avoid.

Phil.