FluffyCon

[Bignic]

Hi

Just to foreshadow the player pack due out in a week or two (work kinda sucks at the moment).

1/ Hard caps will still be part of FluffyCon - no doubt similar to this year.
2/ Tiered comp will not be part of FluffyCon - there will be panel-judged comp that rates relative softness between all the lists.
3/ There will not be an option of "taking a comp hit". If the list submitted is not soft enough - it will be rejected. "Close but not quite soft enough so just lose some points" will not be an option.

More info as it comes to hand.

Look forward to seeing lots of you there. If you want to powergame -given the myriad of other tournaments available - perhaps this might not be your cup of tea. And that is OK  :-)

cheers
Nick

[Vaul]

Does the 'fluffy' aspect of fluffycon also have anything at all to do with theme?

My question here can be clarified with a specific example.  Suppose I'm trying to decide between two warriors of chaos lists.  One of them has a mix and match of units with marks from different chaos gods, maybe a couple are undivided too.  The other is purely themed and follows one chaos god.  And somehow I have managed to make the mixed up list the softer of the two (somehow).  Which list is more appropriate for the event?

[Fujin]

IMO the softer one (in your example the mixed marks list).

A Skaven list built to shoot and magic you to bits over a couple of turns is fluffy in a Clan Skyre themed kind of way but most unfluffy in a FluffyCon ethos kind of way. I think the "fluff" is more a reference to cotton wool and teddy bears than theme and background as a way of justifying a list or build. If you get my meaning.


@ Nick - really looking forward to this tournament!

[Bignic]

Yep

Cotton wool and teddy bears are actively encouraged.

"SoftCon" did not have quite the same ring to it...

A highlight from last year was Dazza using the "no one can use my leadership" armour on his general

[Simon]

There will not be an option of "taking a comp hit". If the list submitted is not soft enough - it will be rejected. "Close but not quite soft enough so just lose some points" will not be an option.

awesome!

just 1 question, it is going to be 2000 points or 2250?

[Bignic]

2250 this year

Inceases the proportion of guys with pointy sticks in the army, as the points spend cap on characters will remain as last year.

:-)

N

[warpmaster]

A highlight from last year was Dazza using the "no one can use my leadership" armour on his general

I really hope to come up again Nic with something just as hardcore.

[Simon]

2250 this year

Inceases the proportion of guys with pointy sticks in the army, as the points spend cap on characters will remain as last year.

Nooooooo~~ another extra 250 points of goblin to paint!

[Fujin]

2250pts! Awesome!

That's another 60 Zombies in the army!

[Big D]

Luckily, my army as it stands is very quite soft, will probably just need to get rid of one of my terror-causers.

[The Ox]

Looking forward to it, may bring the beast herds out, don't think I can muster 2250 of fluffy Chaos Dwarves. Also toying with an Empire Army led by an engineer on a mechanical warhorse

[warpmaster]

Looks like i'll be coming up after all.Bit of a shame that its 2250 rather than 2000 this year.Going to be hard to pack another 250 pts into a suitcase

[Simon]

I strongly suggest keeping it at 2000 points, since this is fluffyCon, and ppl want to (or have to) take fluffy stuff (weaker unit choices), and aviod the more optimal units.. (which most ppl have)
it will be much easiler for ppl to build a 2000 points list without having to paint or buy more new models.

eg, dropping 2 bolt throwers and replaced them with spearmen is equal to extra 22 models to buy or paint.

just my personal opinion.

[pete dunn]

2250 points please

[SKELATOR]

same here 2250, more fluffy units for your money

[Fujin]

Not fussed either way, just keen for another tournament

[Josh]

Doesn't bother me really either. Although at 2000 points I'll have to drop my WoC model count down further... I suppose I can drop out a knight unit and one or two other things to make it nice and fluffy... takes my 2000 point list to 45 models. 

[warpmaster]

Can anyone remember what was the power dice cap was last year?

[Simon]

•   No duplicate rares – other than High Elves who can have duplicates, but can’t have a triplicate. A 2 for 1 choice counts as one rare choice.
•   Maximum of one duplicate special – this specifically includes High Elves (you do have 9 special units to choose from!). A 2 for 1 choice counts as one special choice.
•   Maximum of 8 units that are fast cavalry and/or skirmishers
•   Maximum 8 Power Dice + 1 bound item or 6 Power Dice + 2 bound items or 4 Power Dice + 3 bound items. Tomb Kings maximum incantations 7 dice + hieratic jar. A Tomb King bound item counts as one dice against the incantation dice limit. “Bound items” include Warrior priests (who count as 1 bound item each) and Arch Lectors (who count as 2 bound items). Items that generate power dice or dispel dice are assumed to contribute the maximum number possible. By way of example, the Eye of the Horned Rat counts as 1 PD, the Banner of Sorcery counts as 3PD (the maximum roll on a D3) and the Chalice of Malfleur counts as 1 DD against the limit. The Conjoined Homunculus counts as 1 PD against the limit. The DE Sacrificial Dagger counts as 3 PD against the limit. If in doubt please ask the TO.
•   Maximum 7 Dispel Dice or 6 Dispel Dice +1 scroll or 5 Dispel dice + 2 scrolls. “Scrolls” also include runes and other items that have a scroll-like effect (ie Empire Seal of Destruction)
•   No items, virtues, spawnings, gifts or abilities that store Power Dice or Dispel Dice, “steal dice” from an opponent or add a “plus” or inflict a “minus” on/to a casting or dispel attempt. No powerstones. Vampire Counts Bloodline powers and the Mark of Tzeentch are still permissible. An ability which comes free (e.g. innate HE +1 to dispel or Slaan +1 to cast/dispel) is permissible
•   No Dragons, Greater Daemons, 2nd generation Slaan, Anvil of Doom or Casket of Souls
•   No more than one terror-causer – whether a monster, unit or magic item
•   No more than 3 war machines. The Empire Steam Tank and the Lizardman Stegadon counts as war machines for this requirement.
•   No more than 45 figures that have a ranged attack and are not war machines. Gnoblar Fighters (not Trappers) and troops armed with short bows or javelins count as half a figure each for this requirement. Each Leadbelcher, Treeman, Treeman Ancient or Salamander count as 5 figures each for this requirement.
•   No more than 3 characters and/or units with the “fly” ability or Movement 10
•   No more than 750 points spent on characters. DE assassins are characters so count against this limit.
•   Maximum of 1 Fanatic per 10 Night Goblins in the army. No more than 8 fanatics in total. An army with 80+ Night Goblins for example could have up to 8 fanatics with 0 or 1-3 in each unit as per normal.
•   If Tomb Kings, no more than 10 chariot models, otherwise no more than 3 chariot models

[wouster7]

Looks to be another good tourney that'll I be attending. Hopefully the WoC mass will make it but I'll doubt it will since it is still missing models and is unpainted.

"I declare my grudge against the Fujin undead shambling horde."

The pesky HE non-horde will take to the field. If by some miracle the WoC's are even remotely painted they'll step up, if thats O.K with you Fuj.

[Fujin]

On behalf of the shambling undead horde of hopelessness I accept. Just try not to stealth cheesify this list Phil. No Pommy Dave characters etc. Maybe try something original?

The race is on - can Phil's army smash its way through 200+ Zombies to get to the real meat of the list (one cowering Vampire Hero)?

Somehow I think the Warriors of Chaos have a much better chance of accomplishing this than the High Elves!

[wouster7]

Just try not to stealth cheesify this list Phil.

Well 200+ Zombies seals it then... Swordmasters it is   Bob the Stealthy Eagle (oh he's so scary) won't have much effect I'm thinking. I'm gonna take lots of spear blocks and have a huge army of meatshields. Bring em shambling endless zombies  

[warpmaster]

The race is on - can Phil's army smash its way through 200+ Zombies to get to the real meat of the list (one cowering Vampire Hero)?

200  .Glorious stuff matey

[nik_]

2250? Excellent, that's like 20 more Eternal Guard!

[omegakai]

players pack yet?

[wouster7]

High Elves are cheese. That is all.

I'm trying to make the cheesiest fluffy sandwich for ya Fuj 60spears, 12 swordmasters, throw in some silverhelms and assorted condiments. Let the '200' saga begin.

[Fujin]

60 Spears?! Silverhelms?!

Someone need to just let go of all the cheese... it called FluffyCon! By default High Elves are just plain out of luck.


Love the idea of calling the grudge '200'. Fantastic.

[Josh]

Haha, yeah cause spears are such a bad choice. Who was it that I overheard at the club trying to claim that taking a sun/moon dragon was totally fluffy? Please...

[Fujin]

Ooooh... busted

[wouster7]

60 Spears?! Silverhelms?!

Someone need to just let go of all the cheese...

What? hey? You mean I can only take a mass of archers... but they're restricted lols

Who was it that I overheard at the club trying to claim that taking a sun/moon dragon was totally fluffy? Please...

I actually said that taking the Sun/moon instead of a Star was a shat alternative. Actual words not in regards to fluffy though, where even the Gouda masters wear cotton wool breeches