+2 for this bretonnia army?

[Simon]

Prophetess of the Lady
level 4
Dispel scroll
Potion Sacre (use before casting, can +1 to result)
Warhorse

Paladin
barded warhorse
BSB
Gromril Great Helm (+1 save, reroll armor save)
sword of might

Paladin
shield
Questing Vow
morning star
Gauntlet of Duel (challenge must be accepted)
Insignia of the Quest (3+ ward when reduced to 1 wound)
Virtue of Empathy (allow paladin to be on foot, peasant within 12" can use him Ld)

Paladin
Grail Vow
barded warhorse
lance
Virtue of Heroism (killing blow Large target)
enchanted shield

Damsel
Level 2
barding horse
Silver mirror (scroll, caster take str 6 hit)

25 men at arms
FC

25 men at arms
FC

10 peasant Bowmen
11 peasant Bowmen (skirmish)

20 Peasant bowmen
braziers
musican and standard

5 Knights of the Realm
Full Commands
Warbanner

Grail Reilguae
13 Battle Pilgrims

5 mounted Yeomen w/shield
musician

5 mounted Yeomen w/shield
musician

5 mounted Yeomen w/shield
musician

trebuchet
trebuchet

No knights bretonnia army.. (5 KOTRs becuase i have to)
No lord, with Prophetness.. restricted to lore of beast, life and heaven...

do have quite a lot of shooting, but those are peasants...

will i get +2 or similiar?

Really want to try this out in Fob.. but I will probably get very badly humiliated…lol…

If not I will try this out at FluffyCon 2010 if there is one.

[warpmaster]

Nope, it has a double rare and 5 characters so wouldn't get a +2 from me anyway.

[Fodderboy]

IIRC, you can only have one unit of skirmishing bowmen.

[Simon]

IIRC, you can only have one unit of skirmishing bowmen.

good spotting!

[PaW]

it would get a + 1.5 from me,
5 characters, don't see whats wrong with it !!!! Its an army special thats like pinging stupid lizards for all your units being cold blooded, thus your never get +2 from me. Or undead for being undead

2 Rare, Meh sure they are just rock lobbers (granted more powerful, but easily taken down) its not like a 9 unit of grail in there.

i would ditch the insignia of the quest by the way.. seems worthless, you already have a ward

[Antony]

I don't think you'd get this into Fluffycon Simon.
Too many power dice
Triple special
Too many shooters
Double rare

Also remember BSB can't take a shield so GGH is 2+ with reroll AS.

[Simon]

Also remember BSB can't take a shield so GGH is 2+ with reroll AS.

I know, I said +1 to the armor save. not 1+ armor save.

[PaW]

I don't think you'd get this into Fluffycon Simon.
Too many power dice
Triple special
Too many shooters
Double rare

Also remember BSB can't take a shield so GGH is 2+ with reroll AS.

People i think need to get out of this fixation with power dice etc. and double / triple rare.
Sure he has alot of power dice, but the amount of spells that are going to be useful, will be minimal. He can throw lots of dice at some spells, but thats what scrolls are for. + he has to get those spells!

Sure triple special, but come now, they are mounted yeoman, They are not exactly over powered now are they?
maybe 2 trebuchet is powerful but again, its a warmachine with little special rules for other armies its special. Also you have to remember that these things are not that cost effective, like a hydra for example, Looking at the rest of his army, first choice of shot will be vs those guys


Part of the problem with comp is that people generalise too much, As if each army is different each comp should be different. That's what Tiering tried to do (unsuccessfully imo)

[wouster7]

I don't think you'd get this into Fluffycon Simon.

It's cos Simon's a Gouda master like ye self aiint it Antony, not the army 

People i think need to get out of this fixation with power dice etc. and double / triple rare.
Sure he has alot of power dice, but the amount of spells that are going to be useful, will be minimal. He can throw lots of dice at some spells, but thats what scrolls are for. + he has to get those spells!

But damn he's jammy and I think comp should take the jam outta any army. Esp if they are Brets disguised as Gobbo's 


@Simon

Take this army when you vs me and I is sure to give you a +2. Take you standard army and it gets a -2. What you'd rather get a -2... worth a try. hehe

[Derick]

 Lochy tried something like this after his Goblin horde, but that was a different version.
He said he couldn't get it to work

[Simon]

who is Lochy.

[Antony]

People i think need to get out of this fixation with power dice etc. and double / triple rare.

I agree, but Fluffycon has/had hard caps which prohit the sorts of mentioned

[Derick]

who is Lochy.

Lachlan MacWhirter

[Simon]

Lachlan MacWhirter

compare to his "take on everybody", super toned tomb king ETC standard list, this list is a joke...

of couse it won't work if u look at the type of tournaments that he goes to.

[Philfy]

I'd have a few games with it first Simon ...  I can see it struggling in a big way against a number of lists.

Fear and Terror is likely to crucify you.  Actually more than likely.

Bret magic is somewhat less than effective currently IMO...

Certainly a soft list...  "how" soft will depend on criteria of the event.

I can see it working well against a few matchups - if played well.  Although I think you could get away with another unit of knights, drop the MaA down to 20's, drop the 3rd unit of archers down to 10.

A unit of peg knights would be invaluable in this list too methinks.  Boosting the Battle Pilgrim numbers by a couple more wouldn't be a bad idea either.

[Simon]

Fear and Terror is likely to crucify you.  Actually more than likely.

yes, i see them as having the same weakness as a goblin army. against vampire, daemon, tomb king... etc i'm pretty much dead.

Bret magic is somewhat less than effective currently IMO...

yes, becuase NO body takes Prophetess of the Lady. it is a VERY big concession i made, in fact I never seen a bretonnia list with a Prophetess.. lol

I can see it working well against a few matchups - if played well.  Although I think you could get away with another unit of knights, drop the MaA down to 20's, drop the 3rd unit of archers down to 10.

yeah, perosnally, i really don't know if this list will work or not, I will probably give this list a try out after Guardcon.

[Glenn Patel]

Heh... I've considered taking the Prophetess, and I wouldn't say she's a concession. I think it's more

a) People like Ld 9
b) If you want to run solid magic, WHY PLAY BRETONNIANS!?!