2250 Vampire Count List, rate like!

[Simon]

Vampire lord
Dark Acolyte
Forbidden Lore
Nightshroud
Dispel Scroll
The book of Arkhan
Talisman of the Lycni

Vampire
Flying Horror
Avatar of Death (GW)
The Flayed Hauberk

Wight King
BSB
Barded Steed
sword of kings

20 Skeleton warriors
champion and standard

20 Skeleton warriors
champion and standard

20 Skeleton warriors
champion and standard
Banner of the dead legion

Dire wolves
Dire wolves
Dire wolves

17 Grave Guards
champion and standard
Warbanner

5 Black Knights w/bardings
champion and standard
Standard of Hellish Vigour

5 Black Knights w/bardings
champion and standard

5 Fell Bats

3 Cairn Wraiths + banshee

total

6 PDs + 1 bound
5 DDs + scroll


do u think this is hard??

[Fujin]

I think it's cool.

As far as VCs go (and what they can do/take) - I don't think this is hard.

[Xander]

And I don't think it's weak either. It looks like a good list, that will be a fun and challenging list to play against.

[Fodderboy]

I don't think it's too hard.

As your lord literally keeps your army together, I'd suggest giving him Wristbands of Black Gold or parking him in a bunker (look out sir for the 2+ ward save). I'd also consider giving him Lord of the Dead so you can repair your skeleton blocks on a 3+ instead of a 4+ with the Invocation. It will also allow you to boost your skellies past their starting sizes, which is a handy thing to do when you have extra power dice kicking around.

I was running the Hellish Vigour banner and found that it didn't come into play much. I'd swap it for the Banner of the Dead Legion. All of a sudden your 5 (6?) Black knights have US20, which is great for autobreaking from the flank.

I'd swap the Banner of the Dead Legion for a War Banner. You're not going to win combat often with a unit of 20 skellies, and your basic 4+ (5+?) CR will be whittled down pretty quickly by most other core troops and shooting.

Overall I think you have a lot of flexibilty with this list, but not much survivability. Not a hard list at all.

Try here (link) for more ideas.

[Simon]

I don't think this is hard.

I don't think it's too hard.

good~~~looks like i can successfully hide all my "stealth" cheese..

personally i think my list is very effective. 

[Simon]

I don't think it's too hard.

As your lord literally keeps your army together, I'd suggest giving him Wristbands of Black Gold or parking him in a bunker (look out sir for the 2+ ward save). I'd also consider giving him Lord of the Dead so you can repair your skeleton blocks on a 3+ instead of a 4+ with the Invocation. It will also allow you to boost your skellies past their starting sizes, which is a handy thing to do when you have extra power dice kicking around.

I was running the Hellish Vigour banner and found that it didn't come into play much. I'd swap it for the Banner of the Dead Legion. All of a sudden your 5 (6?) Black knights have US20, which is great for autobreaking from the flank.

I'd swap the Banner of the Dead Legion for a War Banner. You're not going to win combat often with a unit of 20 skellies, and your basic 4+ (5+?) CR will be whittled down pretty quickly by most other core troops and shooting.

With 3 wounds, toughness 5 and movement 9, I think my lord is very safe, being a spell caster it is unlikelu I will let him get into any combat that I won’t think he will win. But I give him the night shroud just in case. A high level vampire lord spell caster is already very expensive, Excessive protection on a spell caster is just a waste of points.
I might consider give him lord of the dead, but really, I HARDLY waste any of my PDs to raise more skeletons. In fact, I never raise skeleton unless I have totally nothing else to cast.

Hellish banner is awesome, works for me every time. I am considering dropping the barding on a unit of black knights, so they have movement 8, give my opponent some nasty 16” surprise charge from the forest.


Skeletons are never used to win combat, they r there to pin a unit down.

[Fujin]

I don't think this is hard.

I don't think it's too hard.

good~~~looks like i can successfully hide all my "stealth" cheese..

personally i think my list is very effective. 

I agree to an extent Simon - a list can be effective without being hard.

[Simon]

I agree to an extent Simon - a list can be effective without being hard.

yeah, that's why it is stealth cheese~~

a effective list but does not look too hard.

[Fujin]

But it's not stealth cheese. It's a well-built, effective list. No cheese. Hold the cheese. What's with adding in "cheese"?

I'll be sorely disappointed though if you don't bring the Gobtonnians to Fields of Blood. They'll create quite a stir.

[Simon]

my gobbos are going to FOB..

i'm just planning for my next army.. after my gobbotonnians. .

a few ideas in my head at the moment:

1. a jungle orc army (lizard)
2. undead bretonnia (vampire count)
3. a wood gobbo army (gobbo wood elf)
4. gobbo empire army (empire)

don't know which one to do yet... but i like to plan ahead.. lol.

[Xander]

my gobbos are going to FOB..

i'm just planning for my next army.. after my gobbotonnians. .

a few ideas in my head at the moment:

1. a jungle orc army (lizard) cool, are u gonna use savage orcs?
2. undead bretonnia (vampire count) been done, even in WD
3. a wood gobbo army (gobbo wood elf) LOL
4. gobbo empire army (empire) would be cool to see, then its onto chaos mortal-gobbos (they like all those gifts maybe)

don't know which one to do yet... but i like to plan ahead.. lol.

[Gratnuk Ironfist]

Ha, ha, ha.

A chaos mortal gobbo army, a whole bunch of pink orcs and red goblins with squigs that can't jump becuase they have a cold and fanatics that breath magical fire and have wings.

[Antony]

Why don't you try gobbo hopping squigs

[Simon]

A chaos mortal gobbo army

Chaos mortal gobbo is unlikely, but chaos orc sounds better~~