CheesyCon Summary

[Simon]

I'm going to use this post for army lists, update and results for CheesyCon.
 

CheesyCon

How it works?

Entry fee: $5 NZD
Overall winner Prize: $55NZD

All armies must use an Army Book that has been published and released.
Special Characters can NOT be used.
All games will use the Standard Pitched Battle scenario.
Army Size is 2250 points or less.
Please post your army lists before 5 April 2009. (extended)

so far we have:

1. Antony (Dwarf)
2. Chris (Vampire Count)
3.Chris (Bretonnia)
4. Dave grant (Lizardmen)
5. Derick (Warriors of Chaos)
6. Glenn Patel (Dark Elves)
7. Justin (Bretonnia)
8. Levi (High Elves)
9. Phil (High Elves)
10. Scott (Orc and Goblins)
11. Simon (Daemons of Chaos)


starting from 29 Mar 2009, 11 players will play against each other, so you will play against everyone in the league. You can play on Sunday at cityguard, during the week or you can arrange the time yourself. So each player will play 10 games.

At game end, (normally after both players had six turns), the victory points is determined as per pg 102 of the current edition fantasy rulebook.

At the end of each game, please post or send the results (in victory points onto this forum or to me), and the total victory points will be added together.

table quarters 100 points each
general 100 points
standard 100 points
battle standard 100 points

The winner of the League will be the player who has the highest TOTAL victory points at the end of the 10 games and the winner will take the prize and the losers get nothing.

In the case of a tie in victory points, the winner will be determined by the game between those 2 players. And the player who scored higher in that game will be the overall winner.

OVERALL SCORE BREAKDOWN:

100% gameplay (victory points)
0% sportsmanship
0% army comp
0% painting


ARMY LISTS

Antony’s Dwarf List

Rune Lord, Anvil, Great Weapon, Shield, Ro Stone, Ro Furnace, 2 x scrolls - 384 pts
BSB, MRo Gomril, Ro Resistance, Ro Furnace, Ro Cleaving - 165 pts
Master Engineer, brace of pistols, Ro Furnace, Ro Cleaving, Ro Stone, MRo Challenge - 115 pts

10 Quarrellers, shields - 120 pts
10 Thunderers , shields - 150 pts
10 Thunderers , shields - 150 pts
20 Warriors, FC - 205 pts
19 Long beards, FC, Ro Stoicism, Ro Battle - 303 pts

10 Miners, std, mus - 125 pts
Cannon, Engineer, Valient - 125 pts
Grudge Thrower, Engineer, Ro Accuracy, Ro Penetrating - 145 pts

Organ Gun - 120 pts
Gyro Copter - 140 pts

2247 pts

Chris's Vampire Count

vampire lord, 3rd magic level, infinite hatred, red fury, dread knight, sword of might, night shroud, the cursed book, staff of sorcery

vampire, master of the black arts, 2 dispel scrolls

wight king, battle standard bearer, skeletal steed, barding, the drakenhof banner

20 zombies
29 ghouls
40 skeletons, spears, light armour, shields, standard, standard of hellish vigour
corpse cart, balefire
corpse cart, balefire
10 dire wolves

varghulf
black coach

Chris’s Bretonnia List
Lord, Grail vow,lance of the blessed,grail shield,royal pegasus = 288

Paladin (bsb), Grail vow,banner of defence,Virtue of noble Distain,barded warhorse = 145

Paladin,Holy Icon,Enchanted Shield,Barded warhorse,Grail vow,Lance = 149

Damsel, Chalice of Mafluer,Dispel scroll,barded warhorse = 129

Damsel, barded warhorse,dispel Scroll x2 = 134

Knights Errant x8 , full command, Erranty banner = 201
Knights of the Realm x 10, full comand, war banner = 289
Bowmen x 10 braziers = 65
Bowmen x 10 braziers = 65

Pegasus Knights x 5, full command  = 305

Grail Knights x 8, full command, valorous standard = 384
Trebuchet = 90                                                   
Total = 2244

Dave’s Lizardmen List

Slann: Focussed Rumination, Belcalming Cogitation, BSB, War Banner, Bane Head, Plaque of Tepoc   
Skink Priest: Level 2, Engine of the Gods   
Skink Priest   : Level 2, Engine of the Gods
Scar Veteren: Cold One, Enchanted Shield, Burning Blade of Chotec, Light Armour
     
11 Skinks
10 Skinks   
10 Skinks   

3 Terradons
3 Terradons
18 Temple Guard: FC, Banner of Huanchi
Stegedon   


Derick's Warriors of Chaos List

555  Daemon Prince Lvl4, Mark of Tzeentch,Tendrills of Tzeentch, Blood Curdling Roar

206 Sorcerer lvl2 Mark of Nurgle, Steed,Glaive of Putrification, Power familiar

196 Sorcerer lvl2 Mark of Nurgle, Steed,Biting Blade, Puppet

221 Sorcerer lvl2 Mark of Nurgle, Steed, Dispell Scroll, Sword Might, soporific musk

30  5x Warhounds
30  5x Warhounds
112 15x Marauders Mark of Slaanesh, Muso + Std, L/Arm + shlds
112 15x Marauders Mark of Slaanesh, Muso + Std, L/Arm + shlds
112 15x Marauders Mark of Slaanesh, Muso + Std, L/Arm + shlds


285 5x Knights Mark of Nurgle, Muso + Std, War Banner
260 5x Knights Mark of Nurgle, Muso + Std

130 Warshrine

2249pts total

Glenn’s Dark Elves List

580 Dreadlord, Black Dragon, Null Talisman (x3), Armour of Eternal Servitude, Sword of Might, Shield, Sea Dragon Cloak, Twin Repeater Handbows

150 Master, Null Talisman (x3), Biting Blade, Heavy Armour, Shield, Sea Dragon Cloak, Repeater Crossbow

150 Master, Ring of Hotek, Gem of Nightmares, Heavy Armour, Shield, Sea Dragon Cloak, Repeater Crossbow

151 Assassin, Additional Hand Weapon, Rending Stars, Manbane
151 Assassin, Additional Hand Weapon, Rending Stars, Manbane

117 5 Dark Riders, Musician
117 5 Dark Riders, Musician
 75 10 Spearmen, Full Command

384 24 Shades

100 Repeater Bolt Thrower
100 Repeater Bolt Thrower

175 War Hydra
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2250

Justin’s Bretonnia List

lord, hippogryph, grail vow, shield, virtue confidence, sword of heros, gauntlet of the duel, dragon claw

BSB ,grail vow, holy icon, warhorse,

paladin, shield, warhorse, questing vow, sword of the quest,

damsel, silver mirror, extra level, horse

damsel, 2 dispel scrolls, extra level, horse

5 knight errant, muso
5 knight errant, muso
5 knight errant, muso
5 knight errant
7 knight of the realm, full command, warbanner

5 mounted yeomen, muso
3 pegasus knights

7 grail knights, full command, banner of defence


Levi’s High Elves

Archmage, lvl4, Book of Hoeth        360pts

Mage, lvl2, Folariath’s Robe             180pts

Mage, lvl2, Ring of fury, silver wand       185pts

Mage, lvl2, Seerstaff of sapherry, powerstone          185pts

20 Seaguard, Full command               285pts
10 archerswith light armour         120pts
6 Dragon princes,full commands, Banner of sorcery, Skeinslive       305pts
2 chariots                       170pts
10 Shadow warriors            160pts
3x bolt thrower               300pts

2250pts

Phil’s High Elves

Prince, Star Dragon, Halberd, Armour of caledor, Vambraces o Defence, Talisman of loec
Lvl 2 Mage, Seerstaff ,  Scroll           
Lvl 2 Mage, jewel of dusk, Scroll         

20 Spearmen, FoC, War banner             
14 Spearmen,Musican, Banner             
6 Dragon Princes,Musican, Banner, Banner of Ellyrion         
10 White Lions, Musican, Banner                     
Tiranoc Chariots                       
Tiranoc Chariots                       
Eagle                             
RBT                             
RBT                             
RBT                           

Scott’s Orc and Goblin List

Orc Great Shaman + lvl4 + amulet of protectyness 240

Orc Shaman + lvl2+ nibbla's itty ring 120

Orc Shaman + lvl2 + Horn of Urgok 140

Black Orc Big Boss + Battle Standard Bearer+ Warbanner+ Boar + Heavy Armour 155

5 Trolls 200

5 Trolls 200

2 Spear Chukkaz + 1 Bully 75

2 Spear Chukkaz 70

Goblin Chariot 60

20 Black Orcs + Full Command + shields + Morks Spirit Totem 368

3x 20 Night Goblins + shortbows + 2 fanatics 110 each 330 total

20 Night Goblins + 2 fanatics 110

19 Orc Boyz + additional choppaz + shields + full command 182

Total
2250


Simon’s Daemon of Chaos List

590 Keeper of Sercet, Level 3, Allure of Slaanesh, Siren Song, Torment Blade

260 Herald of Tzeentch, winged, Master of Sorcery, Battle Standard, Great Icon of Despair

289 20 Horrors, Champion + Standard, Banner of Change

132 10 horrors, champion

120 10 horrors

157 5 mounted daemonettes, standard bearer, Siren Standard

175 5 Flesh hounds
175 5 Flesh hounds

175 5 flamers
175 5 flamers

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2248

[Simon]

WEEK 1 RESULT:

Antony (win 2162) VS justin (loss 668)
Simon (win 1248) VS Chris "Vampire" (loss 590)
Glenn (win 2322) VS Derick (loss 1378)
Chris "Bretonnia" (Win 2750) Vs Levi (loss 1240)

[Simon]

WEEK 2 RESULTS:
Antony (1528) VS Chris "Vampire" (953)
Chris "Bretonnia" (3020) VS Derick (963)
Simon (1739) VS Justin (548)
Scott (2950) VS Levi (560)

[Simon]

Week 3 Results:

Chris "vampire" (1521) VS Derick (460)
Dave (2950 VS Levi (0)
Dave (2388) VS Glenn (1099)
Antony (2650) VS Levi (380)
Antony (1602) VS Glenn (1490)
Phil (2379) VS Chris "Bret" (1449)
Simon (2158) VS Scott (1056)

[Simon]

Week 4 results

Phil (1663) VS Justin (1547)      
Scott (2475) VS Glenn (1300)      
      
Simon(1954) VS Antony (718)      
Scott (3050) VS Derek (170)      
Phil (2750) VS Chris VC (240)

[Simon]

Phil (1136) VS Glenn (1070 )
Derick (1766) VS Antony (588)
Phil (2475) VS Derick (945)
Chris VC (1612)VS Chris BRET (597)
Simon (3150) VS Derick (175)

[Simon]

Scott (2350) VS Phil (1063)
Dave (2950) VS Derick (1385)

[Simon]

okay, becuase of unexpected changes to the event (city guards shut down for 3 weeks, some ppl unwilling to finish their games becuase they got smashed every game, ppl want to practice their TS2 list...DAve has to leave in June.. etc).
it is VERY unlikely everyone can finish all their games on time. so there is a suggestion i would like to make in order to be able to complete this event.

1. instead of adding up all the battle points for all the games, I suggest only taking the top 5 games out of the 9 games.
2. If anyone unable to finish all 9 games, then only the top 5 games will be taken into account.

with the above changes, the current ranking remains unchange and the only person who will gain advantage from these changes is myself.
Becuase i'm the To and I think it is a bit dodgy if I change the rules to my advantage, so my suggestion is, my battle points will not be taken into account, so if somehow i manage to win Cheesycon, I won't claim the money, and will automatic go to the second place. (but i'm still happy to pay out my $5)

if everything run smoothly without further problems, we should be able to finish this before TS2 as stated.

 

[Simon]

sorry, added up the victory point wrong, forgot about the 3 flamers hidden in the forest.


Phil (2873) VS Simon (630)      

[Simon]

WEEK 8 RESULT




DAVE 2950 vs PHIL 440

[Simon]

At the moment, Phil is leading at 12140 pts, then Scott 11881 pts, then Dave comes third at 11238.
Dave has only 4 games and requires only 902 pts to get back to the top, while Scott needs 259 points

so it is basically a showdown between Scott and Dave. 

[dave grant]

So Scott - you up for a game next week.... else it will have to be someone else (you Simon??) so I get my 5 games in.

[Simon]

I played against Scott 2 days ago, he said he will be there on this sunday, so i'm pretty sure he can give u a game, I will msg him to confirm, but if he doesn't show up i'm happy to give u a game. 

[Simon]

okie. Last week summary~

DAve pwned Scott today

Dave (2850) VS Scott (335)

so obviously Dave won CheesyCon, marched over the land of warhammer and slaughtered everything in his path with his Lizards.

so, it would be much appreciate if all CheesyCon attendee can pay their entry fees.

thanks~~

[dave grant]

WooT!!!

I'm Cheesy, so cheesy, cheesy cheesy!!

[Simon]

Hi, I would like to hear some feedback from the 10 CheesyCon players on how they feel about the league??
And how do they feel about it before and after the league??

And what changes you want to see, if another similar league comes up next year?

I received some feedback from Phil and Glenn, related to the numbers of games have to play is too much. Also the way battle points calculated is not too good.

[dave grant]

No of games = too much

Scores should be 'tournament based' - ie margin of victory (some armies are VERY cheesy due to points denial tactics).

I would suggest 2 smaller leagues (ie 5-6 per league) and a final for the winner of each league for next time (you could sell tickets) that's 'almost' like what happened with me and Scott this time - we attracted a small crowd.



I would also suggest players "Cheese up" a lot more - you guys took soft lists and it was far too easy (like candy from a baby). 

[wouster7]

I would also suggest players "Cheese up" a lot more - you guys took soft lists and it was far too easy (like candy from a baby). 

I know what you mean Dave. I am currently unhappy with how soft my army is. Will act on your sage advice and harden a few things for up coming Guardcon.

Suggestions for next CheeseCon 2.

Make it 2 games per game day, 2 weeks in a row. 3rd week would be the Grand final.

[Simon]

I know what you mean Dave. I am currently unhappy with how soft my army is. Will act on your sage advice and harden a few things for up coming Guardcon.

Suggestions for next CheeseCon 2.

Make it 2 games per game day, 2 weeks in a row. 3rd week would be the Grand final.

haha, good on you bro, give it a go! i want to see what need to be in a tier 4 army list to get a veto!!

[wouster7]

Dragon
BsB
Lvl1 mage
2 blocks 20 spears
lion chariot
chariot
dragon princes
swordmasters
seaguard
Whitelions

No RBT's, 3PD, 3DD, min shooting phase, crap magic phase, crap dispell phase, lots of banners. Big huge Crutch tehehe.
Wonder if this list would gett veto'd. Certainly would annoy a few ppl cos I neglected to give a complete concession and swap the dragon for more spears.

[Glenn Patel]

*smacks Phil*

Factoring in points denial is definately a good call for CC2, as is the smaller leagues with a finals. 5 man leagues means four games is a round-robin, and the fifth game is the finals.

Certainly next time I'd do things differently... the shadestar was a horrible idea.

(it was 'unfun', but not 'overpowered'... I think I proved it is unfun, I mean I refused to finish my games because of how little fun it was to PLAY... oops)

[Simon]

WOW, how nice of u Phil! dropping those boltthrowers!

well, for real, i am thinking about taking tomb king to GuardCon instead of my Gobotonnia. with the amount of vampire count stuff i got, i probably can put together a "count as" tomb king list.

but i probably going to make my tomb king list a bit softer than my TS2 list by taking a CASKET OF SOUL!! and drop the really powerful tomb prince and chariots!!

so i might get higher comp score?

My list is something like:

Tomb king, destoyer, collar
liche priest , cloak, jar
liche priest, steed, 2 scrolls
liche priest, ankhra, casket

22 skete, FC, Undying legion
10 archers
10 archers

24 tomb guard, FC with Icon of rakaph
3 carrions
scorpion
scorpion

SSC


something  like that!

[Vaul]

Still a great TK list, you'll do well with it.